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Seth Lofton
@SethLofton4
@Okachuwku His potential is scary
Jun-14,2021 15:03
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Stevie Wonder1369
@wonder1369
@Okachuwku but big bear's not going anywhere anytime soon though right??
Jun-14,2021 15:01
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
You know what, I change my mind, I love Kai Jones as the Grizz pick at #17.
Jun-14,2021 14:38
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Stephen Dolan
@SteveThunderfan
@Okachuwku Yeah. Gotta go with "desirable" or "attractive."

Miami is the case study.
Jun-14,2021 13:40
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@SteveThunderfan Always funny to have these kind of distinctions, it's like when people call Cleveland and Minnesota "small markets"
Jun-14,2021 13:38
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Stephen Dolan
@SteveThunderfan
@Okachuwku @wonder1369 @NBA_Rudy I'm soorry
Jun-14,2021 13:36
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@SteveThunderfan @wonder1369 @NBA_Rudy just gets me irritated by every mention of it.
Jun-14,2021 13:33
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Stevie Wonder1369
@wonder1369
@Okachuwku @Isaac_Rivals @StatsSAC eh, making the playoffs in whatever this roller coaster of a year was kinda bought them a mulligan tbh the picture is there, but without knowing what a fully good to go Jaren looks like amongst many other questions (what does consistent Ja look like, or the slow O fit) its blurry
Jun-14,2021 13:25
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@StatsSAC @wonder1369 @Isaac_Rivals always appreciate talking ball with you, have a great night
Jun-14,2021 13:20
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@wonder1369 @Isaac_Rivals @StatsSAC That's still a bit risky but maybe it'll rehabilate Clarke and Winslow's value. It's just the Grizzlies are very luck to have capspace in a free agency class perfectly situated to their needs at the 2/3
Jun-14,2021 13:19
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Stevie Wonder1369
@wonder1369
@Okachuwku @Isaac_Rivals @StatsSAC If anything get a real 6th man at the deadline (ala reggie Jackson okc years)
Jun-14,2021 13:18
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Shawn Coleman
@StatsSAC
@wonder1369 @Okachuwku @Isaac_Rivals That is the way I am leaning as well, y’all have a great night guys, enjoy the conversation
Jun-14,2021 13:17
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Isaac Simpson
@Isaac_Rivals
@wonder1369 @Okachuwku @StatsSAC Next year’s deadline to the end of the 22 offseason is when I think you’ll see significant changes.
Jun-14,2021 13:17
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@NathanChester24 @StatsSAC That's true but only if you believe Ja can be a true co-star next to him. You do this trade, that's the bet you're locking in because the trade route will be closed off (few assets for a star) and free agency is a grab bag. I wouldn't make that bet on Ja yet, we have to wait
Jun-14,2021 13:17
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Stevie Wonder1369
@wonder1369
@Okachuwku @Isaac_Rivals @StatsSAC The summer to strike is next year after you see what a healthy jaren changes with the construction of the roster
Jun-14,2021 13:16
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@AnnaJaneSmith4
@StatsSAC @Okachuwku Very hard to do anything in the postseason without a proper pull-up threat, which the Grizz don't have. But those guys can be found without giving up multiple picks imo, especially when there is depth to trade.
Jun-14,2021 13:16
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Stevie Wonder1369
@wonder1369
@Okachuwku @Isaac_Rivals @StatsSAC We got excess spots with this squad already even with no Winslow... free agents would be dope admittedly but like barring trades next years 11 are set
Jun-14,2021 13:15
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Shawn Coleman
@StatsSAC
@AnnaJaneSmith4 @Okachuwku “Consolidate for a Creator”, theme of the offseason....also i am a sucker for alliteration....I’m headed for bed, fun and enjoyable conversation, y’all have a blessed night
Jun-14,2021 13:15
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@Isaac_Rivals @wonder1369 @StatsSAC Grizzlies only have this summer and next before all the extensions are due and that's not even mentioning Jonas who will be a free agent next summer.
Jun-14,2021 13:14
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@Isaac_Rivals @wonder1369 @StatsSAC I think we already discussed declining Winslow's TO. If we do it, it'll open up ~$23mill in capspace which is just game changing. That money could spent and split in so many ways from Fournier to signing Nwaba and Olynk and so on, improving this team. It's a very rare opportunity
Jun-14,2021 13:14
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@AnnaJaneSmith4
@StatsSAC @Okachuwku Yup, a nice consolidation trade sending out Tyus, Clarke, Grayson, maybe Slo if necessary is what they should be thinking about imo. See what this group can do with a proper sub-all star creator at the 2/3 spot.
Jun-14,2021 13:12
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Stevie Wonder1369
@wonder1369
@StatsSAC @Okachuwku @Isaac_Rivals Actual full offseason with Vegas even to tinker with your previous batch of rookies. Roster has flaws but you were also a playoff team in a crunched up season and so much room for growth with this roster yeah
Jun-14,2021 13:11
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Shawn Coleman
@StatsSAC
@AnnaJaneSmith4 @Okachuwku That focus’s in on a Brogdon level player imo
Jun-14,2021 13:10
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
Some very good discussions on the Grizzlies potentially tumultuous offseason right now
Jun-14,2021 13:10
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@AnnaJaneSmith4
@Okachuwku @StatsSAC Right now, pushing the chips in should mean acquiring a 2 guard who can shoot, not trading multiple firsts for a guard who *might* be a top 25 player. It won't matter if Ja and/or Jaren are also not top 25 players.
Jun-14,2021 13:09
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Shawn Coleman
@StatsSAC
@Okachuwku @AnnaJaneSmith4 Certainly is some logic there, the only thing is you do not wanna pay a higher premium due to a lack of options To get a target through signing or trade that just incrementally improves your team...I’d rather be patient than for something in a sellers market
Jun-14,2021 13:08
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@StatsSAC @AnnaJaneSmith4 (so in other words, I guess I disagree about not "pushing the chips in", I think)
Jun-14,2021 13:06
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@AnnaJaneSmith4
@StatsSAC @Okachuwku Right. So no giving up firsts!
Jun-14,2021 13:06
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Shawn Coleman
@StatsSAC
@AnnaJaneSmith4 @Okachuwku Yup, there remains a high level of variance as to where the true ceiling of a future with Ja, Dillon, Melt, BC, and Jaren truly lands, gotta find more certainty with that before a heavily invested play is made to push the team forward
Jun-14,2021 13:05
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Isaac Simpson
@Isaac_Rivals
@wonder1369 @Okachuwku @StatsSAC It wouldn’t be the direction I’d go because I would simply go with who I felt was the best player now. I think there will be surer things on the board but I’d understand their line of thinking if they do go Williams
Jun-14,2021 13:05
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@StatsSAC @AnnaJaneSmith4 I am one of the more impatient fans. You only have this summer and next to improve the team in a big way before contract extensions kick in/are due. We punted on last summer, so for a young cheap team, this summer could be a massive opportunity especially in this FA market
Jun-14,2021 13:05
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@AnnaJaneSmith4
@StatsSAC @Okachuwku (Jaren's health.)
Jun-14,2021 13:05
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Isaac Simpson
@Isaac_Rivals
@wonder1369 @Okachuwku @StatsSAC You’d definitely be taking a swing. We talked about him on the pod the other day. There is reason to believe his shooting will improve but he’s 100% a pick on pure potential & they are in position to make that kind of pick.
Jun-14,2021 13:03
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@AnnaJaneSmith4
@StatsSAC @Okachuwku Right. Ja has a very well-defined ceiling right now and is EXTREMELY reliant on his vets. Until you can be sure he can bust through that I would not be pushing any chips in ... I'd be more worried about that than about Jaren. But also need to get a sense of his health.
Jun-14,2021 13:03
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Nathan Chester
@NathanChester24
@Okachuwku @StatsSAC I’m not very confident Jaren will ever make an all-star team. I’m pretty confident that SGA will be an MVP candidate in the next few years. That’s a huge gulf
Jun-14,2021 13:02
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Stevie Wonder1369
@wonder1369
@Isaac_Rivals @Okachuwku @StatsSAC That's why I find ziarie so tempting tbh. They wont need to draft for day 1 impact cause they got 11 set already and probably even 12
Jun-14,2021 13:02
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Shawn Coleman
@StatsSAC
@AnnaJaneSmith4 @Okachuwku Oh absolutely, that is by far the play you center everything else around....that is why this is the only type of scenario that ever makes me stray away from that, is if a young validated star could be has...but year 3 or Jenkins, Ja, and JJJ is gonna reveal so much
Jun-14,2021 13:01
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Isaac Simpson
@Isaac_Rivals
@wonder1369 @Okachuwku @StatsSAC Roster wise they’re in a situation where they’re likely looking at a “redshirt season” for any of the guys that will be available at 17
Jun-14,2021 13:01
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@AnnaJaneSmith4
@birdrightsnba @Okachuwku @StatsSAC Memphis really needs those picks to flesh out its core.
Jun-14,2021 13:00
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Isaac Simpson
@Isaac_Rivals
@wonder1369 @Okachuwku @StatsSAC that brings back a veteran player. Maybe a 2 for 1 or something similar.
Jun-14,2021 13:00
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@AnnaJaneSmith4
@birdrightsnba @Okachuwku @StatsSAC Can't just bail and rebuild forever.

Wow, more picks! And we got off more money! ok but what exactly are the picks and nice cap sheet for?
Jun-14,2021 12:59
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Isaac Simpson
@Isaac_Rivals
@wonder1369 @Okachuwku @StatsSAC of anything significant free agency wise which is why I think there is a good chance they use the 17 pick to either move up in the draft to a different tier of player that would actually crack the rotation or use it in a package to facilitate a consolidation trade.
Jun-14,2021 12:59
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David Brandon
@birdrightsnba
@AnnaJaneSmith4 @Okachuwku @StatsSAC From an OKC perspective I'm with you, it's baffling. He's the guy you KEEP.
Jun-14,2021 12:58
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@AnnaJaneSmith4
@StatsSAC @Okachuwku Honestly, need another year of looking at Ja, as well as Jaren, to have a sense of the what the ceiling is for both of them.
Jun-14,2021 12:58
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Isaac Simpson
@Isaac_Rivals
@wonder1369 @Okachuwku @StatsSAC I don’t expect them to do anything major either. They’ll work around the margins. If something arises that they can’t pass up they might. It’s going to piss a lot of people off around here but I’m almost certain they pick up Winslow’s option which takes them out...
Jun-14,2021 12:58
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Shawn Coleman
@StatsSAC
@wonder1369 @Okachuwku @Isaac_Rivals Absolutely, in reality, while this year was great for data accumulation in general, you still want to find more certainty of what you have in JJJ, Melt, and BC before you invest major assets in a trade to support Ja
Jun-14,2021 12:58
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Stevie Wonder1369
@wonder1369
@Okachuwku @Isaac_Rivals @StatsSAC Could just decline the winslow option and convert tillie and put the 2nd round rook on a 2 way but they're aggressive in the draft so they might like another guy in the UDFA also and that's where sean becomes an inconvenience
Jun-14,2021 12:57
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@NathanChester24 @StatsSAC Brother, if you believe JJJ can be a star (believe it or not, I'm not as certain, I have a high bar on what constitutes a "star"), then this is even worse! The goal is to pair stars together, you rarely see all-star for all-star trades for a reason.
Jun-14,2021 12:57
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Stevie Wonder1369
@wonder1369
@Okachuwku @Isaac_Rivals @StatsSAC They kinda gotta do a miny deal if they wanna make use of their 2nd round rookie cause they only are gonna have one available roster slot with frazier out the door.

Not expecting anything major though personally. Next year might be another see where the cards land season
Jun-14,2021 12:56
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Shawn Coleman
@StatsSAC
@AnnaJaneSmith4 @Okachuwku Oh, there are many reasons this never happens, but at the end of the day, I see us acquiring one of the better bets to be a top 25 player over the next decade and ideal fit next to Ja....Your point has merit and it may be an overpay, but SGA is worth that play imo
Jun-14,2021 12:55
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Nathan Chester
@NathanChester24
@Okachuwku @StatsSAC Would it be my preferred blockbuster deal? Not really. And it would never happen anyway.
Jun-14,2021 12:53
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@Isaac_Rivals @StatsSAC So I kind of expected these "consolidation" trades, but it will be wild over the couple of upcoming months
Jun-14,2021 12:53
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Nathan Chester
@NathanChester24
@Okachuwku @StatsSAC I think Jaren can still be a star, and I’m still launching him into the sun for SGA. Horford isn’t better than JV, but there are parts of his game that make him more well-suited to the postseason. Those 2 firsts are outside the lottery.

I’m Gucci with it.
Jun-14,2021 12:52
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@AnnaJaneSmith4
@Okachuwku @StatsSAC Low key, selling Jaren at his lowest value point is nuts. And throwing in TWO first round picks? Nuts.

It's also nuts for OKC. Why would they trade SGA now?
Jun-14,2021 12:52
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Isaac Simpson
@Isaac_Rivals
@StatsSAC @Okachuwku I think a healthy JJJ probably averages 23ppg on that OKC team too
Jun-14,2021 12:52
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@Isaac_Rivals @StatsSAC Well the Grizzlies are exiting their "honeymoon" phase and with two draft picks, there will be a roster crunch nevermind the capspace that will be opened up when we inevitably decline Winslow's TO (they could still bring him back). So there will be a lot trade scenarios coming up
Jun-14,2021 12:52
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Shawn Coleman
@StatsSAC
@Isaac_Rivals @Okachuwku That Is a fair point, I guess it comes down to how much you value SGA, whom I think has a very good shot of being a top 25 player in the league of the next decade and is as about an ideal of a player next to Ja as you can find...both sides of the discussion are logical
Jun-14,2021 12:51
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@AnnaJaneSmith4
Always rely on Leslie for the sane takes lmao.
Jun-14,2021 12:50
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Isaac Simpson
@Isaac_Rivals
@StatsSAC @Okachuwku As I said this is just BR made up bs anyway so again with me it’s not about this trade or any of the trades that have been discussed it’s the principle of how people feel about the assets the Grizz have and what’s a good trade & what’s a bad trade.
Jun-14,2021 12:49
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Isaac Simpson
@Isaac_Rivals
@StatsSAC @Okachuwku And the trade isn’t just JJJ for SGA which again I probably wouldn’t even do straight up it’s JJJ/JV/Winslow’s expiring and 2 1sts for SGA & Horford. Essentially you are giving all that up for SGA because Horford has no values. He’s the opposite of value
Jun-14,2021 12:47
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@StatsSAC @Isaac_Rivals I understand your perspective but this is far from the only JJJ trade I've seen from national outlets. It's bewildering.
Jun-14,2021 12:45
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Shawn Coleman
@StatsSAC
@Okachuwku @Isaac_Rivals I in no way feel JJJ is expendable, just like I do not think SGA is either....however, I do not consider JJJ untouchable....For hypotheticals, SGA is among the handful of players that would make JJJ enter trade discussions imo
Jun-14,2021 12:44
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@StatsSAC The Grizzlies are giving up our only top 50 player, our best prospect, and two picks to be worse in the short and possibly long term. This is a deranged trade for both teams.
Jun-14,2021 12:41
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Jonah K
@jonah_kaufman
@Okachuwku @Isaac_Rivals People real fast to give up on him, looking forward to all of them pretending like they didn’t next year
Jun-14,2021 12:41
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@Isaac_Rivals It's a rare lose-lose trade for both teams. I do not understand why people think JJJ is expendable.
Jun-14,2021 12:37
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
oh brother
Jun-14,2021 10:31
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@NathanChester24 jaren doesn't have to be a superstar for that to be a terrible trade
Jun-14,2021 10:21
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
going to have to drive a stake through the heart of this denver team, they don't ever quit
Jun-14,2021 10:17
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
Look at that cop bitching to the refs about someone giving him a piece of his own medicine
Jun-14,2021 10:12
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Paul Dawkins
@Paul__Dawkins
@Okachuwku No idea, but anyone but Millsap should get run here.
Jun-14,2021 10:07
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@Paul__Dawkins is JaMychal injured?
Jun-14,2021 10:06
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Paul Dawkins
@Paul__Dawkins
@Okachuwku Dude can only play short stints. Especially at altitude. Malone must know this.
Jun-14,2021 10:05
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
oh yeah, javale is huffing and puffing pretty bad right now
Jun-14,2021 10:03
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@mattinaq was it always this bad?
Jun-14,2021 10:02
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
Javale is just jogging back on defense what the hell? What happened to his motor??
Jun-14,2021 10:01
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Stephen Dolan
@SteveThunderfan
@Okachuwku Nah it's just that other things also bother other players lol. This is the only one for KD. Especially since he's over that thing where small guys getting under his dribble mattered.
Jun-14,2021 09:54
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@SteveThunderfan That's right dammit, but I don't think physical defense bothers KD much more so than other players. Allen did his job by denying KD the ball, Durant was already strong enough by 2013 that it was still tough to knock him off his spot (well PJ is much stronger but also slower)
Jun-14,2021 09:52
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
there's a lot of suns fans in denver lol
Jun-14,2021 09:49
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@AnnaJaneSmith4
@Okachuwku If the Bucks actually win the title they will deserve zero slander, but this is unlikely.
Jun-14,2021 08:30
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Stephen Dolan
@SteveThunderfan
@Okachuwku Oh lol. You think I have a problem with physical play? No I'm just saying it's been proven to be the best way to guard KD for like a decade. Since Tony Allen did it.
Jun-14,2021 08:12
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Stephen Dolan
@SteveThunderfan
@Okachuwku I don't see the correlation.
Jun-14,2021 08:09
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@SteveThunderfan Oh really, pretty interesting coming from a team that employed Steven Adams
Jun-14,2021 07:42
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@AnnaJaneSmith4 I'm already seeing it now, the slander is curiously centered in Canada and in the state of Philadelphia
Jun-14,2021 07:28
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
After getting a first round bye and facing the worst remaining team in the NBA, I see that Sixers fans are living it up right now.
Jun-14,2021 07:24
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
All this talk about who or which player deserves to win a title is always nonsense to me, no one deserves to win a championship, not even Conley or Giannis. At best you can make an argument who might deserve a shot.
Jun-14,2021 07:21
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@duckshoe @Anthonysmdoyle @TraMurr The iso's are fine, Giannis is good at them, it's just he tends to be predictable and gets frustrated easily when his first option is cut off
Jun-14,2021 07:18
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The Original Pascal Siakam Stan Account
@duckshoe
@Anthonysmdoyle @Okachuwku @TraMurr Or if you iso him it's 12-15 feet from the hoop so he's one step from the rim, plus proper spacing so any doubles are either long paths or in his field of view

You can't just throw him a ball 30 feet out like he's Harden. He's great but he's a different type of player
Jun-14,2021 05:32
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Anthony Doyle
@Anthonysmdoyle
@duckshoe @Okachuwku @TraMurr He clearly should be used primarily in the PnR, on both sides of it. Not as an iso guy. No idea why the Bucks don't see this.
Jun-14,2021 05:28
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The Original Pascal Siakam Stan Account
@duckshoe
@Okachuwku @TraMurr We all know by now that giving Giannis a running start against a set defense doesn't yield results but Bud is going to keep running Giannis into that wall - I refuse to blame Giannis for that
Jun-14,2021 05:27
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The Original Pascal Siakam Stan Account
@duckshoe
@Okachuwku @TraMurr It's overstating things quite a bit. He just lacks isolation scoring, but that happens to be something that is slightly more valuable in the postseason and his coach doesn't really know how to unlock it for him so it looks a lot worse than it really is.
Jun-14,2021 05:26
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@CTFazio24 @FearTheBrown Even outside of the post, smaller players get away with so much contact on larger players yet vice-versa with larger players
Jun-14,2021 05:10
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YOGI FERRELL CHAMPIONSHIP SZN
@FreeMalikMonk
@Okachuwku @kaminskyskittle Its a bet on the D, the ballhandling and passing, all of which I think is a fair bet in Minny with the spacing
Jun-14,2021 05:06
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YOGI FERRELL CHAMPIONSHIP SZN
@FreeMalikMonk
@Okachuwku @kaminskyskittle Ive explained this but all he needs to do is run the occasional pick and pop. Wolves have better spacing and playmaking around him, he'd be the 5th option low usage player on Minny who doesn't need to shoot open 3s.
Jun-14,2021 05:04
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Alex (AW)
@alexwinton_
@Okachuwku Shit got me weak 🤣
Jun-14,2021 05:01
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
@alexwinton_ Lmao a young Malcolm X??
Jun-14,2021 05:00
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‏ً
@VibeHigher1
@Okachuwku 😂😂😭😭 seems to be that way lol
Jun-14,2021 04:57
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
I see the streets is mad at my country mane
Jun-14,2021 04:56
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Jackson Lloyd
@JLloyd952
@Okachuwku Would require many changes with how little contact is allowed outside the paint and post.
Jun-14,2021 04:50
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
hate to see it, brother don't know what to do with all this free time
Jun-14,2021 04:46
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Leslie 🏴🚩 ooh-kaa-chew-koo
@Okachuwku
Bron played so little this year that this nigga is on every commercial that's showing right now
Jun-14,2021 04:45
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