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Dr Ron
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Apr-23,2021 10:16
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Rosella Cappella Zielinski
@rosellacappella
@MartinSkold2 @blagden_david @PatPorter76 @navalhistorian @thinkdefence Coming in late here; some folks argue to satisfy domestic coalitions you need guns and butter (Narziny APSR). To yr point, I'm working on a piece on financing grand strategy looking at leaders & interemporal tradeoffs, extraction from society today for gains in the far future.
Apr-23,2021 10:12
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Marc Graham
@MarcGra95162166
@thinkdefence Damp in army housing?
Apr-23,2021 09:35
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Andy Welham-Jones
@Wellie_C47
@Jacob_The_Pilot @Ridge_Too_Far @thinkdefence @scottiebateman Only if the decimal point moves left about 3 places.
Apr-23,2021 09:29
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BTR
@pascalbtr
@thinkdefence French army currently still use folding boat equipment, for exemple in Africa

Apr-23,2021 09:24
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Yozz
@Yozz38887229
@bermicourt @thinkdefence Is that because it can't be flipping, because the support legs
Apr-23,2021 09:14
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Jacob The Pilot
@Jacob_The_Pilot
@Ridge_Too_Far @thinkdefence @scottiebateman But fair 👍
Apr-23,2021 08:49
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All Knowing Roger
@eyes_roger
@thinkdefence St George the martyr, after killing the dragon, demanded Libya become christian, which did go down well, and they chopped his head off.
Apr-23,2021 08:48
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WO2 - Royal Engineers
@WO2ProudSapper
@thinkdefence It’s frustrating. Perhaps chatting to reservists might help? They’ve always had to make do with either old kit or something they have funded/ built themselves.
Apr-23,2021 08:43
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Gaz
@Ridge_Too_Far
@Jacob_The_Pilot @thinkdefence @scottiebateman Stick to your dreams and try for the real thing young man. You can do it!
Apr-23,2021 08:31
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Steve Prior
@steveprioruk
@thinkdefence I wish we talked more about strategy. We keep latching onto ‘things’ and not desired outcomes. What are we trying to achieve? Then we could consider ‘how’.
Apr-23,2021 08:30
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Captain Sapper
@Wigwamjam
@JamesFrankFlint @thinkdefence Most soldiers are probably thinking 'does that tank have tea making facilities'
Apr-23,2021 08:30
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Jacob The Pilot
@Jacob_The_Pilot
@Ridge_Too_Far @thinkdefence @scottiebateman Harsh😳

Apr-23,2021 08:26
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Riley
@RileyCmdr
@thinkdefence You mean like Afghanistan?
Apr-23,2021 08:25
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Gaz
@Ridge_Too_Far
@Jacob_The_Pilot @thinkdefence @scottiebateman You can hand in your uniform and badges if you go down that route!!
Apr-23,2021 08:24
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Jacob The Pilot
@Jacob_The_Pilot
@Ridge_Too_Far @thinkdefence @scottiebateman Do I need this in my life? 🤔
Apr-23,2021 08:23
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Cj
@Cj60126817
@thinkdefence Because we know better, we’ve got out and had time to do an assessment. (And we don’t need to brown nose our 1 up for an A-. ) It’s easier for those still in the game to keep their heads down rather than challenge conventions. iTs AlWAyS bEen dOnE LiKe tHis 🤪
Apr-23,2021 08:18
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James Flint
@JamesFrankFlint
@Wigwamjam @thinkdefence But 'I' do!

Everyone needs interests/ hobbies beyond the gym, telle, and eating out!

But you're right that commentators love to fantasise about the latest T72BM347, while soldiers treat it as a tank...
Apr-23,2021 08:17
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James Flint
@JamesFrankFlint
@iainoverton @CR940 @thinkdefence Employ some Farage style scaremongering. Say all those Russian tanks and AFV are in France, on our doorstep.

It fooled the public concerning Turkish migrants!
Apr-23,2021 08:13
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James Flint
@JamesFrankFlint
@thinkdefence We can afford it.

It's the frustration of our wealth being squandered by corruption/ incompetence in bad policy decision making.
Apr-23,2021 08:08
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yxfpmsveeijci
@yxfpmsveeijci
@thinkdefence Any delays throw spending plans into a cocked hat. Less GDP growth than expected does also. Exposure to foreign exchange rates too.

The animated chart here illustrates what I mean about finely meeting the NATO targets.

https://t.co/I5KPY2LciS
Apr-23,2021 08:07
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yxfpmsveeijci
@yxfpmsveeijci
@thinkdefence Because no one knows how much is available to spend at any given time, including the MoD it seems.

The bureaucratic focus appears to be on finely meeting NATO spending targets on an annual basis. It over-values coalition capabilities & undervalues sovereign defence needs.
Apr-23,2021 08:05
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Gordon
@thatsnotmycow
@thinkdefence Tradition.
Apr-23,2021 08:04
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Martin Skold
@MartinSkold2
@blagden_david @PatPorter76 @navalhistorian @thinkdefence @rosellacappella In reality they want some of each.

Dovetails with Thucydides’ “fear, honor, and interest,” which is also found in Hobbes.

But while assuredly you can move among these three, the question is how they -interact-, and whether these can be -optimized-.
Apr-23,2021 08:03
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Mary C Legg
@pogomcl2
@thinkdefence a day without a #bridge is an army without sappers
Apr-23,2021 08:02
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Martin Skold
@MartinSkold2
@blagden_david @PatPorter76 @navalhistorian @thinkdefence @rosellacappella I think it explains the existence of the three major schools of IR, in that they’re all describing an elephant: realists assume states want guns, liberals assume butter, and constructivists philosophical gains.
Apr-23,2021 08:02
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David Blagden
@blagden_david
@MartinSkold2 @PatPorter76 @navalhistorian @thinkdefence @rosellacappella You don’t have to persuade me on that front; I quite agree that states’ rulers/citizens - who share a relationship, of course - can have social preferences that interact with (and sometimes contradict) material security/prosperity imperatives:
Apr-23,2021 07:58
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Martin Skold
@MartinSkold2
@blagden_david @PatPorter76 @navalhistorian @thinkdefence @rosellacappella Almost every bid for global hegemonic status, in fact, involves pursuits that sacrifice and/or risk both guns -and- butter.
Apr-23,2021 07:57
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Martin Skold
@MartinSkold2
@blagden_david @PatPorter76 @navalhistorian @thinkdefence @rosellacappella ...states are at the end of the day trying to satisfy the ambitions of those who rule them, which can be quite irrational, and do not fit into the category of either guns or butter, but are nonetheless deemed highly important.
Apr-23,2021 07:55
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Martin Skold
@MartinSkold2
@blagden_david @PatPorter76 @navalhistorian @thinkdefence @rosellacappella I’d also argue (this went into my dissertation, which is trying to become a book) that there is a third metric, which we might call culture, intangibles, ideology, etc: ...
Apr-23,2021 07:55
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Martin Skold
@MartinSkold2
@blagden_david @PatPorter76 @navalhistorian @thinkdefence @rosellacappella This isn’t that different from running a business: you need insurance and you need profit, and there are different ways to balance the two.
Apr-23,2021 07:54
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Martin Skold
@MartinSkold2
@blagden_david @PatPorter76 @navalhistorian @thinkdefence @rosellacappella Also not the question, though.

The question is when, if I’m a state, I should pursue guns or butter, given both that there are multiple possible baskets of the two -and- that they interact.
Apr-23,2021 07:54
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William Reynolds
@war_student
@blagden_david @navalhistorian @thinkdefence Aha oh no I agree, and I struggle internally sometimes on the right balance. My current thinking is that I'm more willing to configure the Navy to maximize peacetime activities with the acknowledged risk that it will rely on some heads up to switch to a containment like posture.
Apr-23,2021 07:54
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Kevin Huckfield
@KevinHuckfield
For lovers of bridges. @thinkdefence
https://t.co/8GNMIVtrlv
Apr-23,2021 07:54
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David Blagden
@blagden_david
@war_student @navalhistorian @thinkdefence ...hulls - is enough to be comfortable in the face of NE Atlantic ASW contingencies. Other major powers can certainly do the associated sums. But it’s something reasonable people can disagree on, and I can’t face another Twitter beef on the topic.
Apr-23,2021 07:52
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Thomas Lawler
@TomLawler571
@thinkdefence @marinamaral2 work is top notch. The significance of it goes much further than the pixels on the screen.
Apr-23,2021 07:52
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Jedibeeftrix
@Jedibeeftrix
@thinkdefence @BO3673 Is this stuff that bleeds across from the US via UKForces fascination with APM Project Management?
Apr-23,2021 07:51
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David Blagden
@blagden_david
@war_student @navalhistorian @thinkdefence Glad we agree on much! Re: ASW frigates, it clearly comes down to somewhat different assessments of whether ~1 TAS-equipped T23 (or future T26) left behind while 2 go to the Pacific, from ~3 deployed - following a typical peacetime ops:training:maintenance ratio with 8 total...
Apr-23,2021 07:48
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Martin Skold
@MartinSkold2
@blagden_david @PatPorter76 @navalhistorian @thinkdefence ...but when pursuing either guns or butter (a somewhat distinct issue) amounts to an asset or a liability. When, if I’m in the driver’s seat, should I do what?
Apr-23,2021 07:45
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Martin Skold
@MartinSkold2
@blagden_david @PatPorter76 @navalhistorian @thinkdefence Doesn’t directly answer the question though, I think. Apart from the fact that security itself is a more flexible concept than many realize, the question isn’t merely what policies states pursue to stay alive...
Apr-23,2021 07:45
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Gary Trafford
@GaryTrafford1
@thinkdefence As UK has an industry in hand built, retromodded & restoed vehicles
Why not a comp, teams given a 101, or maybe aStolly each, and able to call on def ind tech, say from the smaller set ups like Supercat etc

Good telly & might spark ideas ?

Hope he approves

Apr-23,2021 07:42
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David Blagden
@blagden_david
@MartinSkold2 @PatPorter76 @navalhistorian @thinkdefence ...like @rosellacappella have written on different means of funding - and the economic consequences that can follow from - military campaigns, e.g.
Apr-23,2021 07:42
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William Reynolds
@war_student
@blagden_david @navalhistorian @thinkdefence Its something I personally believe past UK 'Grand Strategic' papers have noted and applied rather well. Pointing out the issue, acknowledging the risk and yet still shifting elsewhere.
Apr-23,2021 07:40
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David Blagden
@blagden_david
@MartinSkold2 @PatPorter76 @navalhistorian @thinkdefence I accept many of your points, but I’m not sure that “standard IR theory” has little to say about them. E.g. Charlie Glaser has written plenty on how security is multiply realisable through different confrontational/accommodative strategies: https://t.co/y6YKpN9cHK. And scholars..
Apr-23,2021 07:40
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William Reynolds
@war_student
@blagden_david @navalhistorian @thinkdefence Indeed, and I agree on the latter point. But I think using the ASW Type 26 argument and Carrier in the SCS does ignores 75% of UK resources and policy planning when it comes to wider global priorities. Because one can take 'comfortable' risks to prioritize other areas.
Apr-23,2021 07:39
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David Blagden
@blagden_david
@war_student @navalhistorian @thinkdefence “Confront” or not isn’t the point - and of course, what we intend may misperceived, or simply hard for the other side to know. The point is more basic; any allocation of necessarily scarce assets comes with unavoidable opportunity-costs, so the size of the policy must be aligned.
Apr-23,2021 07:36
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Donald Reid
@BilgeDindo
@thinkdefence Why print it wrong way round
Apr-23,2021 07:36
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Martin Skold
@MartinSkold2
@blagden_david @PatPorter76 @navalhistorian @thinkdefence Suffice it to say standard IR theory has little to say about it though, even though it hits basically all of its core issues.
Apr-23,2021 07:31
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Martin Skold
@MartinSkold2
@blagden_david @PatPorter76 @navalhistorian @thinkdefence Equally, some states save cash and stay secure, while others become prey when they neglect their defenses.

You can say good statecraft is about knowing which is which, but that’s not terribly helpful on its own, whereas it does open up a fairly rich area of study.
Apr-23,2021 07:31
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Martin Skold
@MartinSkold2
@blagden_david @PatPorter76 @navalhistorian @thinkdefence Related question: are guns and butter a virtuous or a vicious cycle?

It’s not obvious. At various points in their lifecycles, some states become richer by spending money on warfare (wars of conquest), and at others they exhaust themselves.
Apr-23,2021 07:30
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Carlos Dyer
@Dyer1Carlos
@thinkdefence Why don't we talk about what is most critical for defence infrastructure and have more secure sustainable balance throughout it's complete functionality so that nothing is left undone yet every area has total completion
Apr-23,2021 07:27
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William Reynolds
@war_student
@blagden_david @navalhistorian @thinkdefence Ah well I don't think the purpose of CSG21 is to confront the Chinese so we'll have to agree to disagree there😅.

Perhaps, but I do think that's unnecessarily siloing defence away from other elements of UK Grand Strat (NATO, risk taking, prioritisation, etc).
Apr-23,2021 07:27
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Captain Nemo
@HGWellsHouse
@thinkdefence Link to piece:
https://t.co/W74u78wyMk
Apr-23,2021 07:27
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Captain Nemo
@HGWellsHouse
@thinkdefence Nora Bty...
Sorrry, couldn't help myself.

Apr-23,2021 07:26
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David Blagden
@blagden_david
@war_student @navalhistorian @thinkdefence I agree. But different assets are imperfect substitutes. E.g. if you decide that you’re going to confront the Chinese with a CSG in the SCS at the same time as containing Russia in the NE Atlantic, 8 ASW frigates may not be enough, irrespective of your overseas aid spending (say)
Apr-23,2021 07:25
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Tinman
@Tinman07382139
@thinkdefence Blame, fan boi websites, Nick Drummond and the likes, the first thing I ask myself when I see some one promoting a system or company is “who benefits”. If you add up all the wish list items Nick has tweeted about we would have dozens of orphan fleets
Apr-23,2021 07:23
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Dr Phil Weir
@navalhistorian
@blagden_david @thinkdefence Indeed. Is 2% GDP now the maximum, sustainable, peacetime defence expenditure of a modern state, with all the other calls on state revenue, without implementing borrowing &/or taxation regimes that are inhibitory to general economic wellbeing?🤷‍♂️
Apr-23,2021 07:23
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William Reynolds
@war_student
@blagden_david @navalhistorian @thinkdefence I suppose I'd put it this way, from my view, 'guns' can maximize the peacetime activities of state (all other arms of statecraft) rather than vice-versa.
Apr-23,2021 07:20
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William Reynolds
@war_student
@blagden_david @navalhistorian @thinkdefence For sure, but then I think that points to the twitter discourse that its binary rather than viewing it as a spectrum. Ie - this amount of force works for the UK in this interest because it's factored alongside ODA, British Council, multilateral usage, etc, etc.
Apr-23,2021 07:19
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David Blagden
@blagden_david
@war_student @navalhistorian @thinkdefence Skilful statecraft can indeed maximise the security generated from whatever resources we’re willing/able to allocate to guns, thereby enabling us to enjoy more butter. Yet the means of statecraft (e.g. diplomats) would fall within the “guns” half of the metaphorical ledger.
Apr-23,2021 07:17
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Josh
@FootOfIron
@thinkdefence It distracts from crippling institutional sadness?
Apr-23,2021 07:16
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David Blagden
@blagden_david
@navalhistorian @thinkdefence (Of course, it’s a *bit* more complicated if we insert a third factor (“schools”), i.e. resource allocation that is neither butter (consumption) *nor* guns (security), but the more of it made in the present, the more productivity we have to generate guns *and* butter in future..)
Apr-23,2021 07:14
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William Reynolds
@war_student
@blagden_david @navalhistorian @thinkdefence But then don't we (twitter) equally fall into the trap of failing to accept 'risk' and, perhaps more importantly, assuming interests can't be handled by other elements of statecraft?
Apr-23,2021 07:12
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𝗕𝗹𝗮𝗰𝗸 𝗦𝗵𝗲𝗲𝗽:
@AB1ackSheep
@thinkdefence Why? Because even to this day many in the UK cannot accept such drastic reductions in the defence budget. #defencebudget
Apr-23,2021 07:12
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Pat roche
@paddyakker
@CovertShores @thinkdefence All political parties want to spend more. Unfortunately it will be on NHS education and Infrastructure. However if we can grow economy defence spending will increase.
Apr-23,2021 07:11
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Marc Graham
@MarcGra95162166
@thinkdefence It does a good job reminding any of miltwitters political followers, that there are lots of things we can’t do, before they go getting all gung-ho.

Otherwise they could get deluded by all the tweets of tier 1 military power nonsense 🙄.
Apr-23,2021 07:10
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Nick Simmo
@NSimmo8
@AdamJamesCh @ross_moy Yeah I saw this yesterday. Then spent an hour of my life reading about how they’re constructed, courtesy of @thinkdefence (who you should be following, if you’re not already).
Apr-23,2021 07:08
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David Blagden
@blagden_david
@navalhistorian @thinkdefence This is a key point. “Guns vs butter” is a timeless trade-off. The question is how much butter you’re willing to forego in the present in order to procure the means (guns) of ensuring you’re still around to enjoy butter in future.
Apr-23,2021 07:08
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Seb H
@sebh1981
New NATO account!

@UKDefJournal @thinkdefence @pinstripedline @NavyLookout @TheBrit96 @CarryStrategy @hmsqe
Apr-23,2021 06:57
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The Tomb of The Unknown Worrier
@druitt_monty
@thinkdefence Catastrophic defeat and loss of the home base?
Apr-23,2021 06:46
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Dr Phil Weir
@navalhistorian
@thinkdefence Why do we always frame these questions in terms of "things we cannot afford" rather than "things we need to defend interests/fulfil aims, but are too tight to spend the necessary money on"?
Apr-23,2021 06:45
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Dr. Andrew Wallace
@isenhand
@thinkdefence To achieve what goal?
Apr-23,2021 06:37
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Mary C Legg
@pogomcl2
@thinkdefence more sophisticated version found floating on Lake Washington
Apr-23,2021 06:34
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Captain Sapper
@Wigwamjam
@thinkdefence ‘We’ don’t
Apr-23,2021 06:32
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Thomas Lawler
@TomLawler571
@thinkdefence Pay mercenaries to do the job. There, said it
Apr-23,2021 06:30
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SavonAnkka
@SavonAnkka
@pmakela1 @thinkdefence I would imagine it is more about helicopters than drones. I think I have seen that Nora B-52 few years ago so well before the recent successes drones have had.
Apr-23,2021 06:29
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Aleksander Gontarz
@a_gontarz
@thinkdefence Bodge job temporary helipad, that's all folks.
Apr-23,2021 06:29
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Iain Overton
@iainoverton
@CR940 @thinkdefence The general public need, I think, to be engaged with when it comes to the question: what do we need a military for? The existential threats of Taliban or ISIS or China or Russia seem far away and the security of the realm doesn't seem threatened as it did in the Cold War.
Apr-23,2021 06:26
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Petri Mäkelä
@pmakela1
@SavonAnkka @thinkdefence In addition to the AAMG, someone is preparing for drones and SOF incursions.
Apr-23,2021 06:25
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Middle Management Memoirs
@midmanmem
@bermicourt @thinkdefence Beat me to it!
Apr-23,2021 06:24
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Rob
@hieronymusbosc7
@bermicourt @thinkdefence Batty.
Apr-23,2021 06:24
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Jon Hawkes
@JonHawkes275
@bermicourt @thinkdefence Flamin'
Apr-23,2021 06:23
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Commonwealth Beagle☀️🍻
@Expat_Beagle_Oz
@thinkdefence Honestly I think we need to look at some alternative methods to increase the military budget.

Even if it is just getting to public to voluntarily pitch in on some of the larger expenditures.
Apr-23,2021 06:23
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The Lens of history
@Lensofhistory84
The difference is between a batter hitting a six or getting killed by a fast bowler in slow motion. Culturally insular New Zealand doesn't see the ball (military disasters or defeat) coming. #nextwar #NZdef #NZpol #NZDF
Apr-23,2021 06:22
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Safing Sector
@Gplavallee72
@thinkdefence Don't feel bad. The US isn't, either.

We've abdicated.

What do you think the world is going to look like when Russia and China rule the seas?
Apr-23,2021 06:22
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Gareth Davies
@bermicourt
@thinkdefence Bloody?
Apr-23,2021 06:21
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TSk
@TheSenkari
@thinkdefence Fv432, put buoyancy aids in the passenger compartment and ramps on the roof: instant bridge.

Like that?
Apr-23,2021 06:21
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David Morton
@BigDaveMorton
@stephen_howell6 @thinkdefence @AndyNetherwood @nicholadrummond Now if you’d said with a Bushmaster 50mm, we’d be in business.
Apr-23,2021 06:20
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SavonAnkka
@SavonAnkka
@thinkdefence I really like the fact that their vehicle which is used for these press photos mounts a goddamn coaxial autocannon. That must be first in the world SPGs?
Apr-23,2021 06:20
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CR940
@CR940
@thinkdefence @iainoverton A couple of years ago I compared military and consumer spending. In just the three weeks before Christmas, Tesco takings exceeded the defence budget. Consider how much the average family spent on their party food & drink - that's more than they contributed to national defence.
Apr-23,2021 06:19
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FrontSprocket
@FrontSprocket
@thinkdefence Debate is good thing & he certainly achieves that but he also gets people's hopes up for things that are unaffordable (Boxer IFV) or have to be paid from another budget. e.g. #MobileFiresPlatform #MFP - it has £800m - let's be like the French and spend it on what we've asked for
Apr-23,2021 06:19
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Jonathan Wentworth
@JM_Wentworth
@thinkdefence Proper fantasy stuff aside, it's because there's no reason that a military as well funded as ours shouldn't be able to have things that some smaller countries already have.

I cannot fathom the size of the drain we pour money down.
Apr-23,2021 06:18
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Think Defence
@thinkdefence
A long read on a little known bridging system but one that remained largely the same and in service from the thirties to late fifties

https://t.co/eEngioYLmn
Apr-23,2021 06:18
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Nigel Humphreys
@NidgeHumph
@thinkdefence When you look at the order of requirements an expeditionary army is way down the list and one capable of peer conflict is even further.

Looks like France realise this and don't make perfect the enemy of good.
Apr-23,2021 06:14
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Will Hearnshaw
@WHearnshaw
@thinkdefence I think they did at the time? Though might have been Unit level / COs rather than Div/Organisational level ones
Apr-23,2021 06:13
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budiman
@BudimanJayaS
@thinkdefence robotic vacuum cleaner rigged with C4.
Apr-23,2021 06:13
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Think Defence
@thinkdefence
@WHearnshaw Why don't any of the big accounts tweet about that great example?
Apr-23,2021 06:12
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Will Hearnshaw
@WHearnshaw
@thinkdefence The innovation fund paid for the moveable/possibly inflatable? walls for Urban training I think? Really easy and quick and added lots of value.
Apr-23,2021 06:11
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Think Defence
@thinkdefence
@iainoverton I think it is a degree of arrogance to be honest, we still think we are a 'reference customer' and the defence industry exists merely to service the whims and passing fancies of VSO's
Apr-23,2021 06:09
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Happy Civvie
@GrumpyWo
@CovertShores @thinkdefence Or the government needs to reduce the number/scope of defence tasks.
Apr-23,2021 06:08
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